Welcome to the (possibly) first statistical finds thread of FusionFall!
In this thread you'll find out how many CRATEs you need on average to reach your dream collection of Don Doom and Bad Max items!A couple days ago I posted a thread listing all the Don Doom and Bad Max drops. You can find that here!
I wrote a C program to calculate an average "number of CRATEs that need to be opened to get everything in a wishlist". The number depends on:
How many of these items you need (labeled "Both"): {Super Slayer Shirt, Super Slayer Pants, Super Slayer Boots, Super Slayer Slasher}
How many of these items you need (labeled "Don Doom"): {Don Doom Chemgun, Don Doom Shirt, Don Doom Pants, Don Doom Boots, Don Doom Scouter, Master Spiral Spreader, Master Toxic Mask}
How many of these items you need (labeled "Bad Max"): {Bad Max Concussor, Bad Max Helmet, Bad Max Jacket, Bad Max Pants, Bad Max Boots, Master Screwdriver Blade, Master Hammerhead Hat}
If you don't want to check this manually, check it with this program:
DropBox Link
Updated: 12th of June, 2016
DropBox Link
Updated: 12th of June, 2016
If you want to continue checking manually, add those numbers seperately.
For example, let's say I want Super Slayer Shirt, Super Slayer Pants, Super Slayer Boots, Bad Max Concussor and Don Doom Scouter.
If I add those up, I get:
3 items from the "Both" category,
1 item from the "Don Doom" category, and
1 item from the "Bad Max" category.
Now check out how many CRATEs you need to open on average, to get all those items below.
For our example, the average number of CRATEs that I need to open is 30.09.
Now for your list:
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Both Don Doom Bad Max Average CRATEs
0 0 0 0.00
1 0 0 10.96
2 0 0 16.46
3 0 0 20.12
4 0 0 22.91
0 1 0 11.01
1 1 0 18.39
2 1 0 22.37
3 1 0 25.20
4 1 0 27.41
0 2 0 16.51
1 2 0 23.04
2 2 0 26.42
3 2 0 28.89
4 2 0 30.80
0 3 0 20.22
1 3 0 26.45
2 3 0 29.50
3 3 0 31.75
4 3 0 33.50
0 4 0 23.02
1 4 0 29.10
2 4 0 32.06
3 4 0 34.16
4 4 0 35.79
0 5 0 25.20
1 5 0 31.17
2 5 0 34.08
3 5 0 36.15
4 5 0 37.68
0 6 0 27.04
1 6 0 32.91
2 6 0 35.79
3 6 0 37.79
4 6 0 39.30
0 7 0 28.62
1 7 0 34.46
2 7 0 37.31
3 7 0 39.29
4 7 0 40.78
0 0 1 11.01
1 0 1 18.37
2 0 1 22.36
3 0 1 25.16
4 0 1 27.36
0 1 1 22.11
1 1 1 25.65
2 1 1 28.11
3 1 1 30.09
4 1 1 31.73
0 2 1 27.55
1 2 1 30.14
2 2 1 32.07
3 2 1 33.75
4 2 1 35.10
0 3 1 31.22
1 3 1 33.47
2 3 1 35.15
3 3 1 36.59
4 3 1 37.79
0 4 1 34.09
1 4 1 36.20
2 4 1 37.73
3 4 1 39.02
4 4 1 40.10
0 5 1 36.21
1 5 1 38.25
2 5 1 39.75
3 5 1 40.96
4 5 1 41.98
0 6 1 38.15
1 6 1 40.10
2 6 1 41.56
3 6 1 42.70
4 6 1 43.67
0 7 1 39.70
1 7 1 41.63
2 7 1 43.04
3 7 1 44.16
4 7 1 45.12
0 0 2 16.46
1 0 2 22.92
2 0 2 26.36
3 0 2 28.81
4 0 2 30.67
0 1 2 27.53
1 1 2 30.12
2 1 2 32.08
3 1 2 33.72
4 1 2 35.04
0 2 2 32.96
1 2 2 34.63
2 2 2 36.00
3 2 2 37.29
4 2 2 38.36
0 3 2 36.66
1 3 2 37.98
2 3 2 39.12
3 3 2 40.18
4 3 2 41.05
0 4 2 39.48
1 4 2 40.63
2 4 2 41.66
3 4 2 42.55
4 4 2 43.34
0 5 2 41.65
1 5 2 42.71
2 5 2 43.65
3 5 2 44.47
4 5 2 45.21
0 6 2 43.56
1 6 2 44.58
2 6 2 45.48
3 6 2 46.24
4 6 2 46.91
0 7 2 45.15
1 7 2 46.12
2 7 2 46.96
3 7 2 47.71
4 7 2 48.36
0 0 3 20.07
1 0 3 26.25
2 0 3 29.39
3 0 3 31.67
4 0 3 33.38
0 1 3 31.17
1 1 3 33.44
2 1 3 35.13
3 1 3 36.58
4 1 3 37.74
0 2 3 36.64
1 2 3 37.96
2 2 3 39.08
3 2 3 40.15
4 2 3 41.04
0 3 3 40.34
1 3 3 41.33
2 3 3 42.16
3 3 3 42.97
4 3 3 43.68
0 4 3 43.15
1 4 3 43.97
2 4 3 44.67
3 4 3 45.33
4 4 3 45.96
0 5 3 45.31
1 5 3 46.02
2 5 3 46.64
3 5 3 47.24
4 5 3 47.82
0 6 3 47.20
1 6 3 47.87
2 6 3 48.48
3 6 3 49.02
4 6 3 49.55
0 7 3 48.81
1 7 3 49.44
2 7 3 49.98
3 7 3 50.52
4 7 3 51.02
0 0 4 22.92
1 0 4 28.90
2 0 4 31.89
3 0 4 34.02
4 0 4 35.68
0 1 4 34.01
1 1 4 36.13
2 1 4 37.64
3 1 4 38.91
4 1 4 40.00
0 2 4 39.42
1 2 4 40.59
2 2 4 41.59
3 2 4 42.48
4 2 4 43.29
0 3 4 43.16
1 3 4 43.97
2 3 4 44.65
3 3 4 45.32
4 3 4 45.95
0 4 4 45.96
1 4 4 46.58
2 4 4 47.15
3 4 4 47.70
4 4 4 48.24
0 5 4 48.12
1 5 4 48.65
2 5 4 49.15
3 5 4 49.63
4 5 4 50.10
0 6 4 50.02
1 6 4 50.52
2 6 4 50.96
3 6 4 51.39
4 6 4 51.81
0 7 4 51.64
1 7 4 52.09
2 7 4 52.49
3 7 4 52.89
4 7 4 53.29
0 0 5 25.06
1 0 5 30.95
2 0 5 33.86
3 0 5 35.94
4 0 5 37.47
0 1 5 36.13
1 1 5 38.15
2 1 5 39.59
3 1 5 40.81
4 1 5 41.82
0 2 5 41.60
1 2 5 42.68
2 2 5 43.57
3 2 5 44.40
4 2 5 45.13
0 3 5 45.29
1 3 5 46.01
2 3 5 46.62
3 3 5 47.25
4 3 5 47.84
0 4 5 48.12
1 4 5 48.65
2 4 5 49.13
3 4 5 49.62
4 4 5 50.09
0 5 5 50.30
1 5 5 50.74
2 5 5 51.16
3 5 5 51.58
4 5 5 51.97
0 6 5 52.22
1 6 5 52.59
2 6 5 52.95
3 6 5 53.34
4 6 5 53.71
0 7 5 53.83
1 7 5 54.18
2 7 5 54.49
3 7 5 54.83
4 7 5 55.18
0 0 6 26.91
1 0 6 32.72
2 0 6 35.59
3 0 6 37.61
4 0 6 39.15
0 1 6 38.05
1 1 6 40.00
2 1 6 41.41
3 1 6 42.56
4 1 6 43.54
0 2 6 43.45
1 2 6 44.49
2 2 6 45.33
3 2 6 46.10
4 2 6 46.79
0 3 6 47.09
1 3 6 47.73
2 3 6 48.31
3 3 6 48.88
4 3 6 49.41
0 4 6 49.99
1 4 6 50.46
2 4 6 50.90
3 4 6 51.34
4 4 6 51.76
0 5 6 52.12
1 5 6 52.52
2 5 6 52.89
3 5 6 53.26
4 5 6 53.61
0 6 6 53.99
1 6 6 54.33
2 6 6 54.65
3 6 6 54.96
4 6 6 55.28
0 7 6 55.58
1 7 6 55.89
2 7 6 56.16
3 7 6 56.45
4 7 6 56.74
0 0 7 28.49
1 0 7 34.25
2 0 7 37.11
3 0 7 39.09
4 0 7 40.57
0 1 7 39.56
1 1 7 41.48
2 1 7 42.85
3 1 7 43.98
4 1 7 44.92
0 2 7 45.06
1 2 7 46.05
2 2 7 46.85
3 2 7 47.60
4 2 7 48.25
0 3 7 48.71
1 3 7 49.34
2 3 7 49.87
3 3 7 50.42
4 3 7 50.92
0 4 7 51.57
1 4 7 52.02
2 4 7 52.40
3 4 7 52.81
4 4 7 53.20
0 5 7 53.74
1 5 7 54.10
2 5 7 54.43
3 5 7 54.76
4 5 7 55.07
0 6 7 55.59
1 6 7 55.88
2 6 7 56.15
3 6 7 56.43
4 6 7 56.70
0 7 7 57.15
1 7 7 57.41
2 7 7 57.63
3 7 7 57.89
4 7 7 58.14
You don't have to read below if you're not interested in how I got to these results!
Assumptions:1-) The drop list I posted is %100 accurate (Which it may not be).
2-) Each item has an equal chance of being dropped from their monster, which is 1/11 for both monsters.
3-) The player will keep grinding both monsters, until or if the player's wishlist only contains boss-specific items.
That is, they'll switch to killing one boss, if they got everything they want, except the non-shared drops that they want from that boss.
Conclusions:
1-) If you need only one item from the any category, you're in better shape than anyone else. Pretty much all categories have the same expected CRATE number of ~11.
2-) About 58 CRATEs are all you need to get all Don Doom & Bad Max drops, on average.
3-) There's little to no difference between a person who wants all the Doom & Max items and a person who wants all the Doom & Max items except Super Slayer Set. By the time you get all the other items, you will probably have the Super Slayer Set anyway.
So, there you have it. I'd love to share the technical details of this little experiment, but it exceeds the maximum post size if I do that. I might make another thread (or maybe just post it here) if requested, that includes technical details.
P.S. I had nothing better to do, and it was a fun little coding excercise. I'm not a pro at it lol
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